Unpopular fandomeme

[filthgoblin]

Pinched this one from perdiccas and terraswrath.

Ask me about anything fannish and I will give you my unpopular opinion about it.

It can be anything, from shows, ships to fandom itself; all unpopular opinions will be genuine. If I don't have an unpopular opinion on something, I'm not going to make it up.

I'm not going to bitch for the sake of it, but if I do have something less than popular to say, I won't keep it to myself.

Comments

[filthgoblin.livejournal.com]

I don't know if it's possible to have a popular opinion about Quincest. There's so few of us that I think there's a different view for every person.

Judging by the number of requests on various kink memes, though, I think my most unpopular view on Quincest is that their relationship is not, in any way, abusive. I don't want to see, hear about or read it. Not because I have a problem with fantasy abuse as such. I'll gladly read rapefic and all kinds of other taboo stories. It's just because it seems so out of character. Anyone who's ever seen any pictures of those two together could never honestly believe that Joe abused Zach as a child. They are tight. They clearly love each other. When talking about Joe, Zach's eyes light up. The thought of Joe abusing him just seems ridiculous.

And as a bonus, I have seen some people who have reacted violently against the idea of Zach in a het ship. Um, hello? You'll put any number of other straight actors in a gay ship - even happily married Karl - but Zach with a girl is verboten? There is no confirmation that Zach is gay, but we're not allowed to pair him with women? I find that bizzare.

You know what I'd really like? I'd actually like to see some assumed heterosexual!Zach porn. The het partners I've seen Zach paired with show him having first-time sex with a woman [at 32 years of age] and either having to be shown what to do or being surprisingly competent. What about this for a scenario? Zach is a straight man who likes sex with women and knows how to fuck. So he finds a woman he likes and who likes him and they have hot sex.

I think I feel a trip to the Kink Meme coming on... :p

[coneyislandbaby]

You're probably right re: Quincest not having that many fans to have unpopular opinions about :). However...

Oh my god, yes! Seriously I do not know where the abusive idea comes from. These are not secretly dysfunctional brothers. Well, not *that* kind of dysfunctional - I could see several kinds of other dysfunctions being written believably, because they'd arise out of characterisation, not just taking an easy route to angst. Including the fact that incest is, in some ways, fucked up in itself, so it'd be easy to write it as unhealthy related to that, rather than as abuse (I'm not sure I'd want to - but I could see it being written much more believably than abuse).

That said, I think a lot of the time in kink memes it is more about the kink than the believability, unfortunately.

And I'll have to comment on the other half tomorrow - it's after 3 am here :)